Now that the freezing rain has moved on we and neighboring communities are cleaning up. Some of this cleanup is required because of the unusual snowfall, extreme cold, the freeze-thaw and of course the rain that followed.
Streets everywhere in our area are clean, but are a pothole mess. It's been reported that nearby Chicago has 100,000 potholes and on January 17, 2014 Chicago launched the "Pothole Tracker" website. Here's an image of some of the potholes reported as patched in the last 7 days:
Wheaton and Glen Ellyn have nothing to compare to that website. Of course, BLMH doesn't have one either. We don't have a tax base of 27,000 (GE) or 53,000 (Wheaton). Instead we have the fees of 336.
24 Days and Counting
That's the number of days remaining until Spring. We can expect freezing weather and even a possibility of snow until about April 12. I'm using personal experience to arrive at that date. That's another 47 days. We can expect more snow, more thaw and more heaving of streets in the area. As I drove down Park Ave in Glen Ellyn this morning the water department was digging. It looked like another broken water main.
When the ground begins to thaw and the frost dissipates, there will be additional heaving and more water main breaks. That will signal the welcoming of Spring.
When the ground begins to thaw and the frost dissipates, there will be additional heaving and more water main breaks. That will signal the welcoming of Spring.
In the mean time, what to do?
Repairs and Salt Shortage
Our management and maintenance are empowered by the board to take the necessary steps. When we saw the extent of the icing we knew there would be some problems. One goal is to protect roofs, so the units remain dry. However, when things do go wrong, the primary goal is to handle issues that impact units. Leaks in foyers (the air-locked entryway) is secondary. An important goal is to also take care of issues in garages. We want structures to keep residents warm, dry and comfortable.
I can understand the nervousness if there is any sign of a roof leak. I've experienced a failure of a chimney cap and it was during a very, very rainy April. The concern of a resident in a roof leak situation might include "How serious is this?" "Will the leak become worse?" "Will my possessions be damaged?" "Will I have to vacate my unit?" and so on. Sometimes we may think of the worst possible situation. In fact, the worst case seldom occurs.
Some owners may become upset by a leak. "My problem is the most important" is one possible thought that is driving each of us. However, our management is capable as are the maintenance professionals. Speaking for myself and as a board member, I want to know that we're on top of the situation, whatever it is, and that we are operating responsibly, pro-actively and if possible in accordance to an agreed upon plan. I really want to avoid being a reaction or being at the effect of things. So I look upon every winter storm and every problem from the place of "what if?" I then attempt to anticipate and if necessary I then discuss with the professionals. Once I am confident with the plan I am comfortable to let them do their jobs which includes making the necessary decisions. However, being uncomfortable is no excuse for interfering.
Boards are supposed to discuss issues and decisions in an open forum which is during the monthly HOA meeting. When there is a problem some owners will attempt to contact me and advise me of problems or their issues. I think being kept informed is well and good. However, as a board member I really cannot intervene beyond asking the necessary questions and then discussing with management and maintenance "What are we doing about this situation and are you aware of it?" I find it interesting that some owners will call or email, demand immediate action and yet, if the board is even suspected of operating beyond the view of the entire owner body, then "we are not transparent." Yes, there is a double standard.
Obviously, my approach with management, maintenance and the owners requires some trust. A board member who is distrustful may actually do more harm than good because of false or deceitful communications, obfuscation, withholding and so on. I think there is nothing worse than setting traps or operating irresponsibly. Nor is bullying a valid approach; this is 2014 and we are all very familiar with domination and manipulation techniques. Good intentions are insufficient. When the going gets tough, it is essential that everyone becomes aligned. That is not possible for some. Owners who act solely in their own interests are a real problem. Board members can be another. When mistrust exists it may be impossible to build a foundation for positive action.
Is the current situation perfect? No, it never is. Is there a double standard among owners? Yes there is. Some expect immediate attention and ignore all others in the HOA. Some don't pay their fees in a timely manner. So what? When things to wrong, the association responds. No one asks "Is this owner current" or checks a list. All owners are equal, no matter how delinquent or how disagreeable. Nor does it matter if one is a member of the proper "club." HOAs need to prepare for these types of problems and avoid being a reaction. Each building is to be protected, each address is to be maintained uniformly and fairly. Is this an impossible task? Possibly. We can predict likelihoods. But as I said, it is a double standard. Tom Skilling can provide lousy weather forecasting, which we attempt to use to make decisions and when the weather turns and we make the wrong decision Mr. Skilling provides long winded excuses and the people love it. HOAs do a far better job even with this misinformation and yet the board gets rotten tomatoes. For his reward Tom Skilling gets paid through 2022 as "possibly the highest paid weatherman" with a million dollar salary and a 12 person staff. Go figure! But he is such a warm and personable guy! Hey Tom, come on over and coffee klatch with us! We have a few owners who go for the fluff.
Immediate Steps
One thing to do with a thaw is to repair any damage and dry things out. Another is to deal with the remaining ice dams. Another is to do a thorough inspection of entrances, foyers, garages and so on. Yet another is to look at the worst of the potholes and decide how to deal with that. Looking ahead, another is to replenish salt and calcium chloride inventories. That is if we can get any. The State and municipalities have done their best to commandeer available supplies. For example, Glen Ellyn has insufficient storage and so they too have dipped into their "emergency" consignment and I understand are now purchasing. In other words, we compete with the State and local municipalities on the open market to purchase salt and calcium chloride. Who would win should GE offer to purchase 600 tons, ot BLMH offer to purchase 1 ton. I'll give you one guess.
I can understand the nervousness if there is any sign of a roof leak. I've experienced a failure of a chimney cap and it was during a very, very rainy April. The concern of a resident in a roof leak situation might include "How serious is this?" "Will the leak become worse?" "Will my possessions be damaged?" "Will I have to vacate my unit?" and so on. Sometimes we may think of the worst possible situation. In fact, the worst case seldom occurs.
Some owners may become upset by a leak. "My problem is the most important" is one possible thought that is driving each of us. However, our management is capable as are the maintenance professionals. Speaking for myself and as a board member, I want to know that we're on top of the situation, whatever it is, and that we are operating responsibly, pro-actively and if possible in accordance to an agreed upon plan. I really want to avoid being a reaction or being at the effect of things. So I look upon every winter storm and every problem from the place of "what if?" I then attempt to anticipate and if necessary I then discuss with the professionals. Once I am confident with the plan I am comfortable to let them do their jobs which includes making the necessary decisions. However, being uncomfortable is no excuse for interfering.
Boards are supposed to discuss issues and decisions in an open forum which is during the monthly HOA meeting. When there is a problem some owners will attempt to contact me and advise me of problems or their issues. I think being kept informed is well and good. However, as a board member I really cannot intervene beyond asking the necessary questions and then discussing with management and maintenance "What are we doing about this situation and are you aware of it?" I find it interesting that some owners will call or email, demand immediate action and yet, if the board is even suspected of operating beyond the view of the entire owner body, then "we are not transparent." Yes, there is a double standard.
Obviously, my approach with management, maintenance and the owners requires some trust. A board member who is distrustful may actually do more harm than good because of false or deceitful communications, obfuscation, withholding and so on. I think there is nothing worse than setting traps or operating irresponsibly. Nor is bullying a valid approach; this is 2014 and we are all very familiar with domination and manipulation techniques. Good intentions are insufficient. When the going gets tough, it is essential that everyone becomes aligned. That is not possible for some. Owners who act solely in their own interests are a real problem. Board members can be another. When mistrust exists it may be impossible to build a foundation for positive action.
Is the current situation perfect? No, it never is. Is there a double standard among owners? Yes there is. Some expect immediate attention and ignore all others in the HOA. Some don't pay their fees in a timely manner. So what? When things to wrong, the association responds. No one asks "Is this owner current" or checks a list. All owners are equal, no matter how delinquent or how disagreeable. Nor does it matter if one is a member of the proper "club." HOAs need to prepare for these types of problems and avoid being a reaction. Each building is to be protected, each address is to be maintained uniformly and fairly. Is this an impossible task? Possibly. We can predict likelihoods. But as I said, it is a double standard. Tom Skilling can provide lousy weather forecasting, which we attempt to use to make decisions and when the weather turns and we make the wrong decision Mr. Skilling provides long winded excuses and the people love it. HOAs do a far better job even with this misinformation and yet the board gets rotten tomatoes. For his reward Tom Skilling gets paid through 2022 as "possibly the highest paid weatherman" with a million dollar salary and a 12 person staff. Go figure! But he is such a warm and personable guy! Hey Tom, come on over and coffee klatch with us! We have a few owners who go for the fluff.
Immediate Steps
One thing to do with a thaw is to repair any damage and dry things out. Another is to deal with the remaining ice dams. Another is to do a thorough inspection of entrances, foyers, garages and so on. Yet another is to look at the worst of the potholes and decide how to deal with that. Looking ahead, another is to replenish salt and calcium chloride inventories. That is if we can get any. The State and municipalities have done their best to commandeer available supplies. For example, Glen Ellyn has insufficient storage and so they too have dipped into their "emergency" consignment and I understand are now purchasing. In other words, we compete with the State and local municipalities on the open market to purchase salt and calcium chloride. Who would win should GE offer to purchase 600 tons, ot BLMH offer to purchase 1 ton. I'll give you one guess.
The High Price of Rock Salt
You may recall that Glen Ellyn (GE) decided that they needed more salt storage. In November 2013 the trustees of that village debated the necessity of spending up to $800,000 to increase salt storage because going on the market in winter is an expensive thing to do. The village does have an emergency contract but that may not provide sufficient salt or calcium chloride. Prices in the summer contracts were about $53 a ton and the GE winter contract agreed to purchase if necessary an additional 600 tons at $54 a ton. After that, any additional salt is purchased on the spot market. In other words, GE is our competitor for purchase. This winter, with shortages and bidding for salt from communities everywhere, prices have been reported to be as high as $240 per ton and one may have to ship from Iowa. Of course, salt might be available in bags, but that is usually at a much, much higher price per ton. Rock salt is not the preferred ice melt because it only works as low as 5F and can be corrosive. Calcium chloride is preferred because it works to as low as -25F. I sometimes use the word "salt" to describe both, but the prices are lower for rock salt.
Rock salt in 50 lb. bags is usually about $7 a bag, or $280 a ton. Of course, delivery is extra. Prices have increased because of heavy demand and calcium chloride was recently available in 50 lb. bags for about $22 or $880 a ton.
BLMH stores a minimum of salt or calcium chloride on the property. Our contractors store most of it. With one small shed on the property and owner ambivalence or downright hostility to increasing such storage, I doubt any board will allocate the funds for an "emergency stockpile" here on the property. I say that because no one wants any sort of shed "in my backyard" to paraphrase one of the owners. However, if our snow plowing company does run out this winter, we may be in a situation where the board will have to authorize an emergency purchase. At a cost of 4 to 8 times normal, that would require a significant expenditure. Additional storage might be preferable to avoid such high cost in the future and possible icing if we do run out. The board may consider this to avoid a similar situation in 2015 and beyond. However, none of us can predict the future. 2007 and 2008 were high useage years. The winter of 2012-13 was a low useage year. So who knows? I would think that if winters are going to be milder in general, then we can expect more winter transitions from below freezing to above freezing and with that comes more need for ice and snow melt. But who really knows?
Ice Dams and Damage
We have had some damage because of the ice dams. The weather warmed, but not enough to clear out all of the ice and that 5 inches of snow that fell immediately prior to the melt. Our HOA has raked the roofs several times this winter and cleared gutters. After the most recent snowfall it was able to clear a lot of these dams and rake snow but not all. There had been a scramble to get a 60 ft. lift on the property to aid in raking those high roof eaves and clearing dams. That was in addition to the short reach lift which is used for roofs above garages. But the respite was too short, we got 5 inches of fresh snow a brief melt and then the rain fell.
Do ice dams always cause damage? No. So why did we experience some damage? The ice in this photo is an ice dam and behind it is 5 inches of fresh snow.
Those icicles are the tip of the iceberg. The problem is not the icicles. It is the ice behind the icicles and some of that is under the snow and is not visible. This photo was taken the morning after the 5 inch snowfall and melting was occurring. That creates more ice and longer icicles which freeze upon contact with colder air or when temperatures fall at night. Clearing the icicles and raking the snow is one way to allow the dam to clear. Using high pressure to cut these is another technique that can be used. However, these techniques require some assistance from the weather and can be even more difficult to achieve on high roofs. With increased difficulty comes higher costs.
Here's a roof which had been partially raked. Beneath that snow there may be ice. The only way to determine how much ice is present is to rake, and there are limitations to the amount of raking that can be done. We can't very well clear entire roofs. The gutter has an ice dam which was formed when the melting snow hit the cold gutter. It then froze and as more and more water ran down the roof it struck the ice and it too froze:
When ice forms on roofs it prevents water from melting and running down the roof. Instead, the melting snow from above flows down the roof until it reaches snow and it then cools to form ice. Or, the water flows until it reaches any existing ice and then it stops. That is why ice on roofs is called an "ice dam." After most of the snow cleared, a sheet of ice was visible on some roofs:
What to do next? If most of the ice dam has thawed then additional calcium chloride carefully applied will be helpful. However, with low nighttime temperatures any melted ice may flow to the gutters but can re-freeze. It's a "do your best" situation. To add to the complexity a shortage of calcium chloride may require careful thought about how much to use and where. That is the precise situation currently facing many homes and HOAs in the area.
Salting Roofs?
Throwing rock salt on roofs is to be discouraged. It can attack the roof and change the color of the shingles. It may also contribute to corrosion of aluminum gutters. However, judicious use is something I'm personally in favor of and the careful sprinkling of rock salt along the ice atop gutters will help the melting. However, simply throwing rock salt on roofs is to be discouraged. Calcium chloride is the melting agent of preference. In a HOA, doing these things is best left to professionals.
Immediate removal of snow from gutters is one way to avoid some ice dams. However, that isn't always possible.
Salting Roofs?
Throwing rock salt on roofs is to be discouraged. It can attack the roof and change the color of the shingles. It may also contribute to corrosion of aluminum gutters. However, judicious use is something I'm personally in favor of and the careful sprinkling of rock salt along the ice atop gutters will help the melting. However, simply throwing rock salt on roofs is to be discouraged. Calcium chloride is the melting agent of preference. In a HOA, doing these things is best left to professionals.
Immediate removal of snow from gutters is one way to avoid some ice dams. However, that isn't always possible.
Do Ice Dams Always Result in Problems?
Ice dams prevent the water created by melting roof snow from flowing to the gutters and beyond. Instead the water flows down the roof until it reaches the ice. At that point it will stand and will flow under the ice and possibly under the shingles. Once it is under the shingles it will flow to seams in the plywood (our HOA has plywood roofs) and from there it can flow into walls, or into garages. Rain on top of iced roofs does exactly the same thing.
Melting snow which has pooled behind the dam will freeze at night. In this manner, repeated days of snowing, partial thawing and then refreezing can cause a sheet of ice to form on roofs, and can fill gutters with ice. Some residents on seeing these icicles find them attractive. Some find them to be dangerous. Some don't realize the possible damage they represent.
Ice dams do not always cause problems. This is also determined by roof construction and by the location and extent of the ice on the roofs.
For example, on the new roofs at BLMH, "ice and water shield" is installed along edges and along adjoining areas. These roofs have some protection, but this project is not yet complete. It is my understanding that ice and water shield was not installed on the original roofs and so about 44% of the roofs in this HOA do not have "ice and water shield." I cannot say why this was not done as part of the original construction. Was it part of Wheaton code in 1976-1979 and was it "missed" by the building inspectors? Or was it simply another cost saving shortcut taken by the builder?
What is ice and water shield? It is a rolled sheet material that is impervious to water. If ice and water shield is installed on 3 feet of lower roof, it will prevent most damage from icing that occurs within 3 feet of the edge. If the roof has 5 feet of such shielding, then ice protection is to within 5 feet of the edge.
The new roofs include additional ventilation and additional attic insulation. This results in a colder attic and a colder roof. This too assists in the avoidance of ice dams.
The new roofs include additional ventilation and additional attic insulation. This results in a colder attic and a colder roof. This too assists in the avoidance of ice dams.
I have always remarked that the Manor Homes at BLMH are wonderful, "California Style" buildings. I say that because of the the large sloped areas which end over the entrances of the A&B garages, and because of the complicated gabled areas. These are wonderful architectural style touches, but can contribute to real problems in heavy rainfall and when icing occurs. These are of course problems that seldom occur in San Francisco but do occur here in the midwest. The roof design is precisely why the association has done a lot of work on improved roofing with ice & water shield, relocated downspouts, additional gutters on some roof edges and drainage improvements.
I am told some really horrible icing conditions occurred at BLMH in 1984. There was serious damage to a few buildings. Apparently the knowledge gained was put to use when the re-roofing project was undertaken.
Can Ice and Water Shield Prevent Damage From Ice Dams?
The answer again is determined by the extent of the ice on the roof. If ice dams and ice sheets reach far enough up the roof to go above the shield, then water can flow under the shield.
How Extensive Was Icing Damage This Winter?
First I must state the the winter is not yet over. Secondly, I don't know the answer. Damage assessment is underway and after all work orders are in and repairs made, the board will know. I have been told that there were leaks in a few units. I don't know how extensive these were. I am aware of some dripping in some entrances and of leaks in some garages. Some old roofs have been remarkably leak free. The building which contains my unit has an old roof. It did not have any leaks (yet). However, some years ago a displaced chimney cap caused quite a problem. My point is, simply having an old roof does not guarantee that leaks will occur. On the other hand, a new roof does not guarantee the complete absence of leaks. It might be prudent to have a concern about the possibility of leaks which assists awareness. Worrying is not helpful, in my opinion.
One thing about this HOA is the fact that with 44 buildings arranged on the property on curving streets we have many differing building orientations. That means that blowing snow goes against some entrances while it does not at others. Some buildings have a gabled roof entrance, some a shed roof entrance and some no overhead protection at the entrance. The roofing project is changing that. Some decks and patios accumulates blowing snow while others do not. The extensive trees, including tall evergreens protect some buildings from the heat of the summer yet prevent the benefits of warm winter sunlight from striking some of the roofs. That winter sun may be helpful in moving snow off of roofs and avoiding icing. Exterior walls of some kitchens are facing east and get morning sunlight and are thereby heated in the winter mornings. Others face west and get afternoon sun. Others face north and get little sun. This is why it is so difficult to treat problems with "cookie cutter" solutions. Such an approach does not always work in a HOA such as BLMH.
Are There Other Preventative Measures?
I have posted that I once owned a home with heat tape installed in the gutters. That was a wonderful solution. If I saw ice forming in the gutters I would turn on the electricity to the heat tape and it melted the snow and ice. Then I would turn it off. Doing this usually kept my gutters cleared. It wasn't perfect, however. In extreme cold it was useless. It had to be maintained every year, but was only used about every three to five years because most years there was no buildup to deal with. While attractive, heat tape may not be financially attractive for a HOA because of the cost of electrical wiring, cost of electricity and cost of annual maintenance of the heat tape.
Would such heat tape work here? The installation of heat tape at BLMH would require annual maintenance and testing. It would require some sort of on-off system, be it thermostat or switch, or both. Our buildings are not currently wired for this. However, it might be worth evaluating the cost versus benefits over the A&B garages. That presents a problem. It's my understanding that the last year this association experienced a really serious problem with ice dams was 1984. That was 30 years ago. So the question to ask is this. Does the cost of installing, maintaining and operating such a system for use occasionally over 30 years justify the benefit? Or is it more effective to use manual means of clearing gutters? I also need to point out that the icing problem on buildings is more extensive than the gutters over the A&B garages. The additional areas don't have gutters and heat tape would be difficult to install and maintain throughout. Finally, to install such a system would require a commitment by boards to allocate funds for maintenance each and every year. After several years of doing this with no apparent benefit because of mild winters a board might decide it simply isn't worth the annual cost. If not maintained this would result in a system that would not be completely effective. That's a real possibility with buildings with 84 gutters over garages.
Passive systems include ice & water shield, improved attic insulation and improved attic airflow. These reduce the formation or impact of ice dams, particularly over units and above halls and foyers. They are maintenance free and do not require electricity to function. In combination with some manual maintenance on an "as needed" basis they might be the better solution. That's the approach currently in use at BLMH.
Are There Other Preventative Measures?
I have posted that I once owned a home with heat tape installed in the gutters. That was a wonderful solution. If I saw ice forming in the gutters I would turn on the electricity to the heat tape and it melted the snow and ice. Then I would turn it off. Doing this usually kept my gutters cleared. It wasn't perfect, however. In extreme cold it was useless. It had to be maintained every year, but was only used about every three to five years because most years there was no buildup to deal with. While attractive, heat tape may not be financially attractive for a HOA because of the cost of electrical wiring, cost of electricity and cost of annual maintenance of the heat tape.
Would such heat tape work here? The installation of heat tape at BLMH would require annual maintenance and testing. It would require some sort of on-off system, be it thermostat or switch, or both. Our buildings are not currently wired for this. However, it might be worth evaluating the cost versus benefits over the A&B garages. That presents a problem. It's my understanding that the last year this association experienced a really serious problem with ice dams was 1984. That was 30 years ago. So the question to ask is this. Does the cost of installing, maintaining and operating such a system for use occasionally over 30 years justify the benefit? Or is it more effective to use manual means of clearing gutters? I also need to point out that the icing problem on buildings is more extensive than the gutters over the A&B garages. The additional areas don't have gutters and heat tape would be difficult to install and maintain throughout. Finally, to install such a system would require a commitment by boards to allocate funds for maintenance each and every year. After several years of doing this with no apparent benefit because of mild winters a board might decide it simply isn't worth the annual cost. If not maintained this would result in a system that would not be completely effective. That's a real possibility with buildings with 84 gutters over garages.
Passive systems include ice & water shield, improved attic insulation and improved attic airflow. These reduce the formation or impact of ice dams, particularly over units and above halls and foyers. They are maintenance free and do not require electricity to function. In combination with some manual maintenance on an "as needed" basis they might be the better solution. That's the approach currently in use at BLMH.
